Trade information

Reverted

Information
Start of negotiation	2023-06-11- 16:20
End of negotiation	2023-06-11- 17:57
Restrictions' level	9

Almorranas CB

	Stasys Karpelis
	Salary:	33368 Eu
	Contract:	4 S	Age:	31 y.
	RT:	328	Height:	198 cm.
	Potential:	8
	Zahrin Aula
	Salary:	38250 Eu
	Contract:	1 S	Age:	20 y.
	RT:	205	Height:	213 cm.
	Potential:	9

Viesulas Rezus

	Mikalojus Morkus
	Salary:	29263 Eu
	Contract:	3 S	Age:	25 y.
	RT:	337	Height:	208 cm.
	Potential:	4
	Dāvis Garklāvs
	Salary:	15164 Eu
	Contract:	3 S	Age:	23 y.
	RT:	308	Height:	213 cm.
	Potential:	3
	Dmitriy Fadeev
	Salary:	12542 Eu
	Contract:	2 S	Age:	21 y.
	RT:	246	Height:	209 cm.
	Potential:	8
	Arthur Bardauskas
	Salary:	2053 Eu
	Contract:	2 S	Age:	19 y.
	RT:	159	Height:	213 cm.
	Potential:	7

1.1 1.1 Almorranas

Trade/Lending players: Almorranas & Rezus

-- 93 S 35 d.

Team made a trade offer

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Player:

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 93 S 35 d.

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Player: Zahrin Aula

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 93 S 35 d.

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Player:

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 93 S 35 d.

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Player: Dāvis Garklāvs

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 93 S 35 d.

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Player: Dmitriy Fadeev

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 93 S 35 d.

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Player: Arthur Bardauskas

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 93 S 35 d.

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2.1 2.1 Rezus

Trade offer accepted -- 93 S 35 d.

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1.1 1.1 Cesarrr

This trade is totally balanced. I am trading Karpelis who is a beast PG and he has 15% health inner and 5% extra health trained + Aula who is gonna be top player in game with great inners. I am taking Morkus who has -34% health inner + Garklavs who also has negative health inner + Fadeev who is small and he also has negative health inner and a YT player who is not good. I wanted younger players in SF and PF position so that's the reason of the trade and he is getting future WL1 top PF/C. As I said this is totally balanced. Have a good day. -- 93 S 36 d.

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1.1 1.1 Zolininkas

bahurai varkes suka, verksniai ozina -- 93 S 36 d.

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1.1 3.1 ulipulido

A ver cuánto tarda la.primera denuncia..que la vea yo! -- 93 S 36 d.

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1.1 1.1 Cesarrr

Pues a los 10 segundos de aceptar el trade ya estaba denunciado xD -- 93 S 36 d.

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2.2 4.4 joancrumor

Es que tienes un club de fans impresionante ;P -- 93 S 36 d.

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Fair play committee

Trade has been reverted by the "Fair play" committee -- 93 S 36 d.

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Fair play committee

The Fair play committee decided that the trade is unfair and teams are given a warning. -- 93 S 36 d.

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Fair play committee

How the Fair Play Committee members voted:<br />
- volunteers voted "Revert and punish": 0<br />
- volunteers voted "Revert": 9<br />
- volunteers voted "Fair": 1<br />
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These reasons were chosen by the volunteers during voting:<br />
7 - Suspicion that trade’s goal is to help one of the teams<br />
1 - Suspicion of a trade with fake team or inactive user<br />
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1 - Other reasons. Volunteers wrote explanations: <br />
--- Suspicious that Duranciokas in press conference wrote about reducing salaries while in trade he's the one rasing salaries and giving up several young big mans for one overpaid and with ending contract.<br />
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One reason to take Into account only. Funny... -- 93 S 36 d.

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1.1 3.1 ulipulido

No entiendo al FPC...un trade entre un primera y un segunda..y alguien da razón de Fake trade y otro algo por el estilo. ¿Quién vota estas cosas? -- 93 S 36 d.

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Votes some idiots from wl4-5, that shouldnt be in the fpc -- 93 S 36 d.

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1.1 1.1 Cesarrr

Me parece una auténtica verguenza. ¿El FPC sirve realmente de algo? ¿A un día del cierre de mercado revertís un traspaso porqué Duranciokas dijo que quería ahorrar y en este traspaso no ahorra? ¿Qué argumento es ese? Él es libre de aceptar un trade suba o baje salarios, diga o no diga que quiere subir salarios. ¿Y si acepta el trade porqué quiere a Aula a toda costa? Entonces nos estáis perjudicando a ambos. ¿Y si éste traspaso lo hubieran llevado a cabo equipos como Naujas, Magnificent o Briedziai, se hubiera permitido? Una vez más se os ve de lejos... Gran parte de la comunidad está muy harta de vuestras decisiones, como también de que según que usuarios formen parte del FPC y que echéis a gente válida e imparcial como profesors (BC Saules iela) solo porqué la comunidad letona es pequeña. En fin, una vez más os habéis equivocado y una vez más esto quedará en nada. Buenas noches... -- 93 S 36 d.

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1.1 1.1 Cesarrr

Otra cosa mi jugador Aula estaba en mi equipo juvenil. Ahora tengo que pagar la tasa por bajarlo de nuevo con que vuestra decisión ocasiona perjuicios económicos (-38250€). Es una verguenza lo que está pasando -- 93 S 36 d.

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1.1 4.3 Lipinski

I have the impression that the FPC often causes more trouble than it helps the community.
Or is it just me? -- 93 S 37 d.

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Y 6 a-darius

Administration and FPC have received information that one of the trade participants intends to leave the game and engage in any trades. If FPC suspects that a team may not have a "normally active manager," the trade should be reversed. -- 93 S 37 d.

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1.1 4.3 Lipinski

Ok. I understand that under these circumstances.
Then I just hope that this information is also correct and not only scattered to manipulate the decision of the FPC.
That would be outrageous. -- 93 S 37 d.

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O iš kur čia tokia info? Ar tam kas nepatiko mainai ir „paožino“ skleidžia kažkokius gandus? Vadovautis kažkokiais gandais, žemas lygis... Iš vis fpc formatas nesąmonė, kodėl jame sėdi žaidimo dalyviai, kurie gali būti, kai kuriais atvejais šališki ir gali turėti asmeniškumų. Yra n pavyzdžių, kai fpc narių abejotini mainai praeina be problemų, bet nesivelsiu čia į beprasmę diskusiją, kuri niekur nenuves. -- 93 S 37 d.

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1.1 3.1 ulipulido

Its easy solution. Trades between 1-3WL with no FPC, its suppose there experience mánagers. Unless are fake teams.
Trades with a team lower than WL3, should be check, to avoid cons and problems -- 93 S 37 d.

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1.1 4.3 Lipinski

ulipulido I also take a critical view of this.
Personally, I don't want a two-tier society.

What would happen if the information that led to the withdrawal of the two trades in question turned out to be untrue, or at least this one of the two participants did not leave the game after all? -- 93 S 37 d.

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1.1 1.1 Cesarrr

Yo no tengo ni idea de si Viesulas Rezus tiene intención de dejar el juego o no, a penas he cruzado mensajes con él durante mi estancia en el juego. ¿Y en caso de que él decidiera dejarlo, qué culpa tengo yo? El trade en sí está balanceado, por lo que no hay motivo objetivo para revertirlo. Otra cosa a tener muy en cuenta y espero una respuesta de Darius o del FPC es que cuando se revierte un trade involucrando un jugador del YT, no se debería volver a tener que pagar la tasa por transferencia al YT ya que éste jugador ya estaba antes en la plantilla del YT. La decisión del FPC no puede afectar la ecnomía de los equipos en éste sentido. Espero una respuesta sobre esto. -- 93 S 37 d.

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1.1 4.3 Lipinski

Hmm. It doesn't seem to me that Rezus is planning to abandon the game.
He is active every day and extends his players.
Would someone who no longer plays the game or plans to quit do that? -- 93 S 44 d.

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1.1 1.1 superdzonis

mayybe he planning to delete in season 100 :D -- 93 S 44 d.

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1.1 4.3 Lipinski

Viesulas Rezus did not quit yet.
Seems that the "information Administration and FPC have received that one of the trade participants intends to leave the game and engage in any trades" has not become true. -- 94 S 8 d.

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1.1 1.1 Cesarrr

No words. -- 94 S 8 d.

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3.1 3.3 a-darius

Our information was 100% correct. Just because the user didn't leave the game doesn't mean our decision was wrong. In similar situations in the future, we will take the same approach as it was the right thing to do.
The community wanted FPC and the ability to reverse trades for such cases. -- 94 S 8 d.

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Y 2 Mirza

Guys, let’s think a little bit more then one step ahead. It’s perfect way to compromise FPC - to not delete the team -- 94 S 8 d.

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3.1 3.1 namkinleung

Dont represent me, I am one of the community and I dont want FPC AT ALL. At least not this format. Thanks. -- 94 S 8 d.

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2.1 3.2 Zenetto

What happens if Rezus makes a trade now ? Is it still reverted bcs he plans to leave ? :) -- 94 S 8 d.

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Up -- 94 S 8 d.

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1.1 1.1 Jautrais

darius, with all do respect, but - have You lost Your mind? - how can You state that "our information was 100% correct" if You made some dubious assumption about one of trade participants that never materialized? - as far as community is concerned, Your information was 0% correct and will remain so as long as Rezus is in the game.

But no worries - if I see my opponent in WL1 making any trade to become stronger, I will just report that with claims that other team is throwing -> based on Your approach, that will always be true.

What a circus this is. -- 94 S 8 d.

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1.1 1.1 superdzonis

it seems Rezus searching trades :D -- 94 S 8 d.

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klinci-bot

It will be reported immediately :) -- 94 S 8 d.

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3.1 3.3 a-darius

Common guys... With all due respect - just send a private message to him and ask him directly.
If he isn't a liar, he would confirm my statement.

As for his other trades, that's up to the FPC. But since he made trades with the clear intention of leaving the game, in my opinion, all his trades should be carefully reviewed. -- 94 S 8 d.

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1.1 3.1 ulipulido

Darius, with all the respect, you made a mistake, and its easy to say "sorry guys, we made a mistake"
If the team leaves the game you could revert all the trades, but if not....you are reverting right trades without any reason. In this case you was Minority Report, prevents cheats because someone think about it.
Other thing is Almorranas losing one week salary. If I recieved a trade offer that seems legit why i need to know if teams gonna leave and be punished about it -- 94 S 9 d.

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BBBebrs

Till this game will not understand that collective veto is mistake and nothing that makes both parties interested in the trade is ok, the game will suck. Everyone who ever played any fantasy games will agree. It is never too late to change -- 94 S 9 d.

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