Trade information
Reverted
| Information | |
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| Start of negotiation | 2019-03-20- 09:54 |
| End of negotiation | 2019-03-20- 10:39 |
| Restrictions' level | |
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Alexandre Drofinsky
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| Salary: | 10664 Eu | |||
| Contract: | 1 S | Age: | 24 y. | |
| RT: | 235 | Height: | 185 cm. | |
| Potential: | 8 | |||
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Ulbrecht Hartwig | |||
| Salary: | - | |||
| Contract: | School talent | Age: | 15 y. | |
| RT: | 49 | Height: | 193 cm. | |
| Potential: | 8 | |||
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La la la Xue | |||
| Salary: | 2974 Eu | |||
| Contract: | 1 S | Age: | 21 y. | |
| RT: | 232 | Height: | 210 cm. | |
| Potential: | 5 | |||
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Shei Qiong
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| Salary: | 4538 Eu | |||
| Contract: | 2 S | Age: | 22 y. | |
| RT: | 226 | Height: | 202 cm. | |
| Potential: | 6 | |||
Trade/Lending players:
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https://www.basketpulse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=13765
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Last statement about this trade.
Committee members from 5 different countries decided this deal was unbalanced.
We looked at a lot of factors to come to this conclusion. I will point them out here and not discuss this any further.
Only on first sight does this trade look balanced. Two 8 pots for two 8 pots. Now look closer and you will see that Da Mo Ke Li gives up disproportionally much:
1) It's two of his own scouted, chinese players for two foreign players. Scouted + inland players give a huge discount on contract extension, no matter if by extending before market or during the limited market.
2) When talking to Da Mo Ke Li he pointed out that two two players he traded away were not useful to him to play in his Youth Team. The PG Drofinsky he receives, however, will not be useful for him, too, making this deal effectively a 2-for-1 trade. Additionally, Drofinsky will cost Da Mo Ke Li 10.000€/week (for 50 days), while his two chinese players only cost him 1300€/week.
3) La La and Shei, on the other hand, would be instantly more useful to Kick Ash than the players he exchanged. They are also very cheap this season, so once they get the Youth Team reduction after 50 games, they will be very cheap in the next seasons for Kick Ash, no matter the extension costs on the Limited Market.
4) The chinese players have athletic inner potentials. 15yo Hartwig too. Now apart from the points described above Shei is and will be a much more useful player than Drofinsky (positionally and also already statistically). Hartwig and La La are practically the same type of player (Hartwig will grow to around 210cm like La La), but Hartwig is 15, while La La is 21. So La La will be useful much earlier than Hartwig, which means that the costs for retaining Hartwig until he's useful are much higher. Ergo La La's trade value right now is higher than Hartwigs.
Both chinese players posess more value not only compared individually, but even more combined. A better deal for them could and should be got; as this was the trade favored one site disproportionally while not making much sense for the other site as much financially as competively. (Personally, I am disappointed to see experienced users from WL1 make such a trade. I expected more thoughtfulness at this level.)
After all, all this complaining (and other petty actions like spamming reports in the wake of this revert) is a glaring sign of weakness. Nothing happened, really. No punishment, just a revert. So live with it and just make better trades that benefit both teams and all will be fine. If you are doubtful about offering/accepting a particular trade, there is always the possibility to contact a member of the FPC to find out how we would decide. You even did this today with another trade already, Kick Ash, and still you keep complaining. Very disappointing. -- 69 S 4 d.
Committee members from 5 different countries decided this deal was unbalanced.
We looked at a lot of factors to come to this conclusion. I will point them out here and not discuss this any further.
Only on first sight does this trade look balanced. Two 8 pots for two 8 pots. Now look closer and you will see that Da Mo Ke Li gives up disproportionally much:
1) It's two of his own scouted, chinese players for two foreign players. Scouted + inland players give a huge discount on contract extension, no matter if by extending before market or during the limited market.
2) When talking to Da Mo Ke Li he pointed out that two two players he traded away were not useful to him to play in his Youth Team. The PG Drofinsky he receives, however, will not be useful for him, too, making this deal effectively a 2-for-1 trade. Additionally, Drofinsky will cost Da Mo Ke Li 10.000€/week (for 50 days), while his two chinese players only cost him 1300€/week.
3) La La and Shei, on the other hand, would be instantly more useful to Kick Ash than the players he exchanged. They are also very cheap this season, so once they get the Youth Team reduction after 50 games, they will be very cheap in the next seasons for Kick Ash, no matter the extension costs on the Limited Market.
4) The chinese players have athletic inner potentials. 15yo Hartwig too. Now apart from the points described above Shei is and will be a much more useful player than Drofinsky (positionally and also already statistically). Hartwig and La La are practically the same type of player (Hartwig will grow to around 210cm like La La), but Hartwig is 15, while La La is 21. So La La will be useful much earlier than Hartwig, which means that the costs for retaining Hartwig until he's useful are much higher. Ergo La La's trade value right now is higher than Hartwigs.
Both chinese players posess more value not only compared individually, but even more combined. A better deal for them could and should be got; as this was the trade favored one site disproportionally while not making much sense for the other site as much financially as competively. (Personally, I am disappointed to see experienced users from WL1 make such a trade. I expected more thoughtfulness at this level.)
After all, all this complaining (and other petty actions like spamming reports in the wake of this revert) is a glaring sign of weakness. Nothing happened, really. No punishment, just a revert. So live with it and just make better trades that benefit both teams and all will be fine. If you are doubtful about offering/accepting a particular trade, there is always the possibility to contact a member of the FPC to find out how we would decide. You even did this today with another trade already, Kick Ash, and still you keep complaining. Very disappointing. -- 69 S 4 d.
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LALA Is there any difference in how the salary will become at least 10,000 EU after 35 days? The youth team's first-line team of waste materials can't be used or it costs money. Finally, it is bought out.
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“5 different countries decided this deal was unbalanced” but they do not agree on which team benefits on this trade. so it is generally a fair trade. you can see a survey here 
https://www.basketpulse.com/en/Press-read-11130774.htm, you could over simplified it as “4 different countries decided this deal was unbalanced”，actually 2 thinks one team benefits and 2 think the other team benefits more. Please do not over simplified this.
"Nothing happened, really. No punishment, just a revert." You think revert a trade is not a big thing. If you made a fair trade, then I revert it. You will know the feeling.
You can revert one exchange, then you can revert second exchange. In my opinion, over simplified voting and revert some fair trade will hurt team managers. -- 69 S 5 d.
https://www.basketpulse.com/en/Press-read-11130774.htm, you could over simplified it as “4 different countries decided this deal was unbalanced”，actually 2 thinks one team benefits and 2 think the other team benefits more. Please do not over simplified this. "Nothing happened, really. No punishment, just a revert." You think revert a trade is not a big thing. If you made a fair trade, then I revert it. You will know the feeling.
You can revert one exchange, then you can revert second exchange. In my opinion, over simplified voting and revert some fair trade will hurt team managers. -- 69 S 5 d.
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