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Wǒ bù pà

Jean Reaidy
Alga:	2734 Eu
Kontraktas:	1 sez.	Amžius:	20 m.
VK:	168	Ūgis:	221 cm.
Potencialas:	6

Lucky Rats

Tarik Foucault
Alga:	-
Kontraktas:	Mok. talentas	Amžius:	16 m.
VK:	55	Ūgis:	201 cm.
Potencialas:	3

1.1 1.1 Wǒ bù pà

Mainai/Žaidėjų skolinimas: Wǒ bù pà & Lucky Rats

-- 91 sez. 25 d.

Komanda pateikė mainų pasiūlymą

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

Žaidėjas: Jean Reaidy

Dėl įvykusių mainų pradėjo žaisti naujoje komandoje -- 91 sez. 25 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

Žaidėjas:

Dėl įvykusių mainų pradėjo žaisti naujoje komandoje -- 91 sez. 25 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

Lucky Rats

Mainų pasiūlymas priimtas -- 91 sez. 25 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

Sąžiningo žaidimo komitetas

Buvo pranešta, kad šie mainai gali būti nesąžiningi. Visgi Sąžiningo žaidimo komitetas nusprendė, kad šie mainai sąžiningi. -- 91 sez. 48 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

Sąžiningo žaidimo komitetas

How the Fair Play Committee members voted: 
- volunteers voted "Revert and punish": 1 
- volunteers voted "Revert": 4 
- volunteers voted "Fair": 8 
 
These reasons were chosen by the volunteers during voting: 
5 - Suspicion that trade’s goal is to help one of the teams 
 
-- 91 sez. 48 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.4 jasonsample

So this was fair! If you dont want him, jut fire him. -- 91 sez. 49 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.4 jasonsample

And also i really would like to hear the fair logic behind this trade from 8 members? -- 91 sez. 49 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

4.1 4.3 SaintOre

Well done FPC, indeed absolutely fair, i bet everyone can trade like this without a problem :) :) -- 91 sez. 49 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.15 Alphan

Fair means Honest and with justice I guess, but in this trade fair means exhibiton or show for most of FPC as can be seen with anyone with a clear mind… -- 91 sez. 49 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

2.1 6.16 steijnarr

We're so lucky to have an FPC with such strong sense of justice and merit /s -- 91 sez. 50 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.4 jasonsample

It seems like our 8 members are very busy to explain the logic to us. During this time i want to open a small contest: I will send 1000 gift credits to the best logical explaination for this trade to be fair. Please write your answers below, if any:) -- 91 sez. 50 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.15 Alphan

This is not a fair trade, but this is a trade from trade fair :) -- 91 sez. 50 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

2.2 4.4 Frankebasta

I'm wondering how it is possible that a trade made on d25 was voted upon on d48. Isn't there a 1-week grace period for trades to be voided? -- 91 sez. 58 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.4 jasonsample

I guess it is voted only when reported. -- 91 sez. 58 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

2.1 2.1 Aurimas.

School talent is younger, cheaper, smaller, lower rt and potential but has more letters in his name and surname than this center. So these letters balancing other parameters and makes this trade fair -- 91 sez. 58 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.4 jasonsample

"letters balancing other parameters" :))) Thanks for answer. Let me wait a little more for answers, then you are the winner of contest. -- 91 sez. 58 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

2.2 4.4 Frankebasta

maybe Tarik Foucault is a lucky name, in its native language.
Or a person dear to him.
I have a Massimov on my team, just because it's close to my RL name, and that's because at the moment I cannot find any player named Ricci.
I certainly would trade for a Ricci!
:) -- 91 sez. 59 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.4 jasonsample

Emotional connection with players name, i see :) -- 91 sez. 59 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.4 jasonsample

Gift credits sent to Frankebasta and Aurimas. Thanks all for comments. -- 91 sez. 61 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

2.2 4.4 Frankebasta

Thank you -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 4.8 elprof

Can someone explain to me why it's "unfair" to make a trade that creates cap space? To me it's perfectly logical for one team to gain an expensive good player in exchange for a cheap bad player while the other team gains in salary reduction. I have no problem with that. So I don't understand why it's called "unfair". -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.4 jasonsample

Read the trade rules. 4) You are not allowed to just give away the ?unnecessary? players to other clubs (you are not allowed to make any gifts, etc.). If you want to get rid of a player, you have to fire him. -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.4 jasonsample

A trade should be bimutually benefical. if it is not it leads to helping one team. -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.4 jasonsample

Assume the team who got this good and cheap player was your opponent in your league, he gets a good player for nothing. Thats why this is unfair and is stated clearly in rule above, if you dont want him just fire him! -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

Y 2 bicaas

Wobupa save 11484 euros for this season. It is his benefit. It is not so big, but benefit. Why he cannot choose to make this trade? He has 10 trade level and save money with this trade. If somebody make similar trade, because he does not need a player, why he cannot use this opportunity? Or he have to keep player in the team, pay salary for him, because other manager do not like a trade?

https://www.basketpulse.com/lt/Player/2330085/description

Earlier I want trade this player for player from schoo(despite how low his potencial would be). Maybe I try to trade him in the future when I have more player in youth team. -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.4 jasonsample

No he doenst have to keep him, as i wrote above if he doesnt want him, he should just fire him, so player will be on free market and player would be fairly contract a new team. This is very clear on the rule. -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 1.1 bicaas

What gift? He trade this player for save money, whats wrong with this? Also he cannot fire player. Because he is on loan.

You think that one of the best manager of all time does not know what is the best for his team?

Your argument would be correct unless it is his friends and he want to help him. Of course you do not have such arguments. -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 1.1 Zolininkas

Spaudos konferencijos žinutė paslėpta (federacijos savanorio arba administratoriaus) -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 5.4 jasonsample

I didnt said or have to any show argument for they are friend or not. It is unfair for other people. And being best manager or knowing best for him has noting to do with this. I am repasting the trade rule 4: You are not allowed to just give away the ?unnecessary? players to other clubs (you are not allowed to make any gifts, etc.). If you want to get rid of a player, you have to fire him. -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

4.1 4.3 SaintOre

Pasigydyt reikia nesaziningam "saziningo zaidimo komitetui". Nesvarbu kada tai ivyko, bet tai vistiek vyksta. -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

7.38 7.14 pianistas

Ahh guys there it is, a W2 team saves 1900 euros per week, making this thing valid. If you are not worried about the contract running out, then just let it run out. The player is cheap and is a decent trade asset. Why risk making such trades just to save 1.9k per week? By bringing up contract extensions you do not make this trade look any better. Extending is optional. "Why can't an experienced manager trade however he likes just because others won't like it" is a terrible argument. Just get rid of the FPC altogether following that logic. -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

7.38 7.14 pianistas

Level 10 isn't supposed to give you more credibility. It gives you more power to abuse. -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 1.1 Zolininkas

https://www.basketpulse.com/lt/Team/63519/description
o tau tikslus sutrugde sezono pasiekt sitie mainai? -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

4.1 4.3 SaintOre

:D :D Zolininke, islik prie zalumynu, nelysk prie chemijos. Neatremiamas argumentas i klausima apie mainu sazininguma, tai klausimas apie mano sezono tikslus. :) -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

Rodyti paslėptus atsakymus: 34

1.1 1.1 Zolininkas

oj patikek as ju neginu:D man tiesiog yra keista, kai tiek daug zmoniu uzkliuna tie mainai, kai jau tiek laiko praeje:D reikejo floodint is kart, gal butumet ka pakeite -- 91 sez. 62 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 4.8 elprof

I'm aware of the rule, I want to know why it exists. The player also isn't "free". His salary next season is 10k+. There's functionally no difference between them hiring a player from the market at this price vs getting him via trade right now. And they can afford it since they're paying almost 60k in salaries.
Granted, there's virtually no benefit for the other team, besides saving 2k this last week, so based on that I would be suspicious... but hypothetically if they were saving 10k on a continuing contract, I would call that a fair trade. One team gets a good talent for a league average price and the other team doesn't have to pay his salary. -- 91 sez. 63 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

1.1 4.8 elprof

*I keep forgetting this trade happened a while back. Even so, saving 2k is pennies in WL2 and still sus. My point still stands. -- 91 sez. 63 d.

-- (Versti) (Versti EN)

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