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Shu-Yi Pan Ansigt

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Shu-Yi Pan

Klub: Maidstone United

Shu-Yi Pan Ansigt

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Træt

Form:: Træt
Alder:: 29 y.
Højte:: 201 cm. (6' 7'' )
Position:: SG (SF)
Raiting (RT):: 259
Predicted peak RT:: 262
Potentiale:: 7
Kaldenavne:: Peter

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Evner

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Atletisk evne:

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Nøjagtighed:

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Forsvar:

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Angreb:

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Contract information

Term	1 S
Løn	8 922 Eu
Mening	Glimrende

Market information

All teams can give offer until	59 Dag 10:00
Tilbud	0
Krævet mindsteløn	12 967 Eu

Drafts information

Liga	World League.3.3
Sæson	96
Hold	HURRlCANE
Pick no	#28

#TOP 50	efter 2 pts % i international liga
#TOP 50	efter 3 pts scoret i national liga
#TOP 50	efter 3 pts forsøgt i national liga
#TOP 50	efter popularitet i national liga
#TOP 50	efter overtagelser i international liga
#TOP 50	efter overtagelser i national liga
#TOP 50	efter 3 pts forsøgt i international liga
#TOP 50	efter aktiver i national liga
#TOP 50	efter blokeringerne i national liga
#TOP 50	efter 3 pts scoret i international liga
#TOP 50	efter popularitet i international liga
#TOP 50	efter 3 pts % i national liga
#TOP 50	efter point i national liga
#TOP 50	efter off rebounds i national liga
#TOP 50	efter RT i national liga
#TOP 50	efter minutter spillet i national liga
#TOP 50	efter RT i international liga
#TOP 50	efter effektivitet i national liga
#TOP 50	efter FG scoret i national liga
#TOP 50	efter FG forsøgt i national liga
#TOP 50	efter effektivitet i international liga
#TOP 50	efter point i international liga
#TOP 50	efter tot. rebounds i national liga
#TOP 50	efter aktiver i international liga
#TOP 50	efter FG forsøgt i international liga
#TOP 100	efter RT i alders og landsgruppe
#TOP 1000	efter popularitet i landet
#TOP 1000	efter RT i aldersgruppe
#TOP 1000	efter RT i landet

Samogitia

Spiller: Shu-Yi Pan (RT: 259)

-- 107 S 63 Dag

Spilleren har skiftet hold i begrænset market

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1.1 5.4 BC MU

Spiller: Shu-Yi Pan (RT: 259)

-- 107 S 47 Dag

Spilleren har taget imod den kontrakt din klub gav

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Samogitia

Spiller: Shu-Yi Pan (RT: 259)

-- 107 S 26 Dag

Spilleren har taget imod den kontrakt din klub gav

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4.3 5.3 BC Rytas

Spiller: Shu-Yi Pan (RT: 259)

-- 107 S 20 Dag

Den dyreste spiller har forladt klubben, da klubben er ved at gå falit

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4.3 5.3 BC Rytas

Byttehandel/Udlåning af spillere: BC Rytas & HURRICANE

-- 106 S 34 Dag

Team made a trade offer

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Spiller:

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 106 S 34 Dag

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Spiller: Juozukas Mikoliūnas

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 106 S 34 Dag

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Spiller: Arturas Jomantas

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 106 S 34 Dag

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Spiller: Hubert de Rooy

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 106 S 34 Dag

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Spiller: Xinghua Dongfang

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 106 S 34 Dag

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Spiller: Shu-Yi Pan

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 106 S 34 Dag

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Spiller: Lei Zhu

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 106 S 34 Dag

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4.3 4.5 HURRICANE

Trade offer accepted -- 106 S 34 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

I've sent 20-30 trade offers for him with multiple 7-8 pots but the owner didnt want school players and eventually he himself sent me a trade offer with pieces that are very important for my team for the next season since I will be playing in wl3 (now in wl2). Very cheap, well trained guys, with long contracts. Sometimes contracts size/lenght can underrated so I wish you'd take that to account.

This trade was reported after 10 minutes (!) and things like this is a part of the fpc problem the GM is trying to solve. The other guy has offered this trade himself meaning that he thinks its beneficial for him, I have no ties with him. But since other community members also wanted this guy it ofc getting reported like 90% of my other trades (only one was reverted out of 35 trades I've made in two seasons). So it is really beneficial for the guys who reported and other community members that this would get reverted since they would have another opportunity to make a trade for this guy.

So maybe figure how to fix the reporting system before adding trade restrictions, because most of those reports are spam reports, communities report other communities to make them worse and etc. I didnt make a report for at least 2-3 seasons even after seeing some very doubtful trades so I think other managers can also stop crying after their trade is rejected/other guys trade offer is accepted since the fpc is supposed to stop cheating but instead they have to solve multiple spam reports. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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1.1 1.1 superdzonis

yeah amazing trade -- 106 S 35 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

Also I would like to note that I've also taken two useless players in this trade/paid their salaries for this week. Since three of my players in this trade had their salaries covered by the youth team so this trade increased salaries for me.

Also I will have no chance of firing the Iranian player until the rest of the season.

Its beneficial for Rytas to get rid of him without paying his release fee. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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1.1 1.1 Mirza

Rules do not allow to take useless players... useless players have to be fired. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

Yes indeed, but it is a trade that involves 7 players combined (3 players from his team and 4 players from mine). Both sides received assets that are very valuable for their teams. In addition he got rid of a contract that he didnt need anymore which I've stated before. By the way, can you show me where this rule is stated? I would like to read them once more. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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1.1 1.1 superdzonis

It is strictly forbidden to give away 'unnecessary' players to other teams. If a player is no longer needed, he must be released. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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1.1 1.1 superdzonis

4 rule in help- trade section -- 106 S 35 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

Ok I found it. Well I can easily show 50 trades that were voted as fair involving players that werw fired after 7 days that the trade was made, and the guy who made the trade could have a different idea of the the player. I've accepted the trade but I wasnt the one offering it so maybe the player was not useless for him -- 106 S 35 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

"It is strictly forbidden to give away 'unnecessary' players to other teams. If a player is no longer needed, he must be released."
It clearly states that you cant give away these type of players. He was playing 20 minutes every game so he wasnt useless until the trade but he wouldnt need him anymore after this trade I guess. Only the manager really knows, but it is clearly beneficial for him as finances and budgets exist in this game. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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1.1 1.1 superdzonis

yeah just enjoy gold bag. No need to deffend yourself :) -- 106 S 35 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

I am trying to increase the chance of this trade to be voted fair. Also I am tired of every trade I make gets sent to the fpc. I am just playing the game and trying to improve my team. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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PonasKukas-bot

Can someone help me understand how to interpret the rules? In May, we had an updated Trade Rule 6 that states: "The applied punishments are final and non-negotiable. Public discussions about sanctions are strictly prohibited." Even though the final sanction has not yet been decided, a person is publicly discussing part of the sanctioning process. If the logic of the rule is that sanctions cannot be discussed because they are final and irrevocable, should this also apply to the entire process? My understanding is that neither sanctions nor the sanctioning process should be discussed publicly - meaning that from the moment your trade is reported and the FPC begins evaluating it, you should not comment on it in public. Is this the correct interpretation? Also, how are statements like "trying to increase the chance of this trade to be voted fair" evaluated? Isn’t that effectively an attempt to influence FPC members toward a more favorable decision? Thank you. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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2.2 3.4 vialis

Davai tegu suranda tuos 50 mainu easily, ar cia toks pat scam kaip Mirza? -- 106 S 35 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

There's no sanctions yet. It is very common to try to provide more info about the trade after it gets reported and before fpc makes the decision -- 106 S 35 Dag

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PonasKukas-bot

Well, common does not mean legal. Rule 6 also allows you to raise issues by contacting FPC members directly, so why would public communication be allowed? I still see this as a violation of the rules, which is why I’m asking for clarification. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

Why would it not be allowed? Tell me 1 reason -- 106 S 35 Dag

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PonasKukas-bot

Dude, do you read comments? The rule clearly says: ‘Public discussions about sanctions are strictly prohibited.’ You are talking about sanctions - even if they are only potential sanctions, your trade was still reported and is still under sanctions evaluation process. The rule does not say you can only refrain from discussing the final decision. Therefore, you have broken the rule, unless a broader interpretation is laid out. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

It is only your interpretation of the rule. It states that you are not allowed to publicly discuss about sanctions and I am not discussing about no sanctions, just giving more info about the trade which is absolutely allowed and even stated in the rules -- 106 S 35 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

Another reason why my message is public and not private is because of the new restrictions starting next season.

As I stated in my previous messages there are other ways to decrease the fpc reports count.

Since the reporting is not anonymous you could for example ban managers who send reports which get 0 "revert" votes. For example 3 spam trades would get banned for a couple of seasons. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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PonasKukas-bot

Yes, I clearly several times stated that this is my interpretation. Can you quote the part of the rules about providing information that you are referring to? -- 106 S 35 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

"If it is not absolutely obvious, we recommend one or both trade participants to message FPC as soon as possible about their trade and provide any necessary information from their point of view for better judgement of the trade. Please, follow the FPC link given above and write a private message to one (or few) of the FPC members. This might help FPC members to understand the reasons and make favourable decision for you." -- 106 S 35 Dag

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PonasKukas-bot

I just want to underline one word: "write a PRIVATE message to one (or a few) of the FPC members". -- 106 S 35 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

I already told the reason why I have a public statement. Also it is very common to write a conference message under the trade in these situations. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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Fair play committee

This trade was reported as unfair. However, the Fair play committee decided that this trade is fair. -- 106 S 35 Dag

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Fair play committee

How the Fair Play Committee members voted:
- volunteers voted "Revert and punish": 0
- volunteers voted "Revert": 0
- volunteers voted "Fair": 6

These reasons were chosen by the volunteers during voting:

-- 106 S 35 Dag

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1.1 1.1 Cesarrr

Congratz

Yi448 this is the best steal of the season :) -- 106 S 36 Dag

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Y 2

Of the cenury -- 106 S 36 Dag

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1.1 1.1 Catholic

Guys, you can have such trades as well, do negotiations and do it. BC Rytas received some good and cheap players for one good player, despite the fact that Hurricane won in this trade, definitely. Or someone from you expect that BC Rytas is a multi team of Hurricane? If so, send me arguments and we will review the decision. -- 106 S 36 Dag

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1.1 1.1 Gudrioji Lape

Question is where will Hurricane trade this player next -- 106 S 36 Dag

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1.1 1.1 superdzonis

no wayyy -- 106 S 36 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

I can trade him to you if you give a couple of Chinese 9 pots 16-19 year olds -- 106 S 36 Dag

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1.1 1.1 superdzonis

take for free and sell for bag. best business -- 106 S 36 Dag

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PonasKukas-bot

Tbh, BC Vilnius does seem suspicious. BC Vilnius traded with gaywhiteboy—a WL5-6 team that traded only with BC Vilnius. BC Vilnius also traded with Senegal Kings—another WL5-6 team that, once again, traded only with BC Vilnius. It’s really suspicious when lower-league teams exist for just a few seasons, make trades only with one team, and then either leave the game after a couple of seasons or, as in the case of Senegal Kings, get caught for violating the rules. -- 106 S 36 Dag

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1.1 1.1 lantieheuser

From my perspective, I genuinely fail to see any issue with this trade.

Arturas Jomantas is a 10P player whose value can only be fully realized in a top-tier league. However, his health is clearly compromised, and it's well-known that elite leagues have little tolerance for low-health players who decline by age 30. While you could forcibly prioritize health training despite the penalties, even in the best-case scenario—if you train him to age 33—he would only reach the peak of an average-health 9P player. If you push his health to age 36, he'd be equivalent to an average-health 8P player (perhaps slightly better, though I don’t know his exact inners health potential). Thus, his potential isn’t as attractive as it appears on paper, which is why he’s remained unsold for three seasons.

Three seasons ago, I received an offer from this same seller demanding a truckload of prospects and semi-developed players in return. I rejected it without a second thought. I’m also certain the seller has received countless garbage offers over these seasons—likely packages filled with aging veterans on 35k-40k salaries paired with some high-potential but undersized guards. I’ve been tracking Arturas Jomantas’ listing closely, knowing he would eventually be discounted. I just wasn’t aggressive enough in pursuing him and couldn’t assemble a package like HURRlCANE’s, which benefits both parties.

The reality is, after three seasons of trying, the seller Vilnius Rytas finally accepted that Arturas Jomantas was unlikely to fetch their ideal price. The package they accepted may not be the best possible, but it was the most viable and mutually beneficial deal available at the time.

In this trade, they acquired Hubert de Rooy—a near-minimum-salary interior player on a five-season contract. Such players can command up to 18k in free agency, meaning his contract alone is worth around 200k. Another asset is a 201cm 8P semi-developed player of unknown archetype, though his training suggests an athletic perimeter shooter. Whatever the case, unless his development goes terribly wrong, he can likely be trained or converted with credit points into a strong guard, valuing him close to 200k. Lei Zhu’s peak may not be particularly attractive, and his archetype seems suboptimal, but even at his worst, his salary alone makes him worth over 50k. The final guard is relatively unremarkable, but his decent height would likely fetch slightly above minimum salary in the market, putting his contract value at 30k-50k.

In summary: HURRlCANE offered nearly 500k in total contract value for a player whose true peak is that of a 9P talent. Where’s the issue? For three seasons (six real-world months), Arturas Jomantas has been on the market. Vilnius Rytas wasn’t desperate to sell to any specific buyer—they simply sought the best possible offer. The fact is, no one else presented a suitable package or showed serious interest. So why criticize when someone else finally closes the deal?

As a Chinese(taiwan) player, I acknowledge that our gaming culture sometimes includes 'lawyer players' who exploit rule loopholes for personal gain, and cheating rates are slightly higher. But let’s be objective: this trade itself shows no red flags. There’s no need to casually throw around accusations of unfairness or imply malicious intent. As a high-level player in a top league, it’s important to maintain dignity and acknowledge when others make a well-timed, reasonable trade. -- 106 S 38 Dag

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1.1 1.1 lantieheuser

superdzonis
Someone just informed me privately—though I was genuinely unaware of his health status until now. Three seasons ago, his asking price was triple the final transaction value. Even if he had been good healthy, I would never have considered such a price. At the time, I suggested that if this player's health was solid, he could reach out to certain top-league players who might offer something closer to his expectations. He never responded, and due to the unrealistic pricing, I discontinued further tracking.

Had I known he was healthy, I would have offered a package superior to the final deal one or two seasons earlier—though still not exceeding 50% of its total value. Under these premises, I acknowledge that HURRlCANE extracted some value from this trade, but only because they happened to possess and were willing to part with the specific assets the seller needed. From your perspective, you may believe your assets are exceptional, but in the actual negotiation context, that was not objectively true—merely a subjective perception.

Finally, please maintain professionalism. Some language is only appropriate in private settings—our relationship is not sufficiently close for you to use such terms expressively. While I understand your frustration (losing a healthy 10P player at well below your valuation is undoubtedly aggravating), let’s keep discussions respectful. -- 106 S 38 Dag

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4.3 4.5 Yi448

You've described this trade better than me.

Btw I love how you manage your team, your trading game is very strong. Good luck finally reaching wl1 hopefully in the near future! -- 106 S 38 Dag

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1.1 1.1 lantieheuser

superdzonis
"you wrote a lot worthless info"
I am writing a dedicated response to this point.

The fact that you or other top-league players failed to achieve your ideal trades is precisely because such information was not prioritized—this is regrettable, but it cannot be blamed on other players’ misconduct or manipulation.

When higher leagues wish to trade down for high-potential players, what is often needed are competent players with team-friendly contracts that lower-league teams can afford. However, such players are usually redundant for top-league clubs. Thus, lower-league teams hope top-league clubs can help develop their secondary prospects—leveraging your resources to secure favorable contracts for these decent players, which can then be used to acquire their high-potential assets. But this demand encroaches on the operational flexibility of top-league teams yourselves, who primarily want to package their expensive or soon-to-be-expensive veterans—along with mediocre school or youth prospects—for deals.

The most coveted contracts in the market are those in the RT 280-320 range with salaries between 10k-15k on long-term deals. However, cultivating such assets requires dedicating resources and limited roster slots. If one is unwilling to sacrifice some interests to meet others’ needs, what grounds are there for complaint?

Of course, receiving a package of secondary prospects isn’t bad. If the offer is made in good faith and the contents are reasonable, multi-step transactions often yield better returns than a single deal. The problem is: trading partners may not be willing to invest that effort or trust the process. You must teach, persuade, and even then success isn’t guaranteed. Often, managers simply want to address all their needs in one transaction.

Trading is about understanding and compromising on mutual needs—not unilaterally setting prices and demanding others conform to your logic and desires. -- 106 S 38 Dag

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1.1 1.1 lantieheuser

Correct. If the package of school rookies is of high quality, your argument holds merit—BC Rytas could accept the bundle and potentially secure better returns through subsequent trades. However, he clearly doesn’t share this perspective, nor is he obligated to do so. (Otherwise, why would he go three seasons without prioritizing training a high-health 10P player to 100% fitness? Did no one with this knowledge bother to guide him?)

As I mentioned earlier, in such situations, one might attempt hands-on mentoring or provide case studies for reference—though success is never guaranteed. Alternatively, be prepared to sacrifice one or two slots in your youth or loan system to develop players that lower-league teams actually want, thereby positioning yourself to capitalize on similar trade opportunities.

My core point is this: You may believe this trade was suboptimal for the involved party, and that may well be true. But the seller retains the right to their own views and value judgments, using them as the benchmark for their decisions. Publicly criticizing their trade choices as unwise is impolite—and escalating to accusations of manipulation, underhanded deals, or cheating is entirely inappropriate, especially when no compelling evidence supports such claims in this transaction’s execution. -- 106 S 38 Dag

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1.1 1.1 lantieheuser

Honestly, knowing that Arturas Jomantas actually had good health is probably my biggest regret. I could have offered a package significantly better than the final transaction price. But such is life—you can’t hold all the good cards in your hands... :P -- 106 S 38 Dag

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