Trade information

Accepted

Information
Start of negotiation	2019-08-01- 00:00
End of negotiation	2019-08-01- 00:01
Restrictions' level	9

NW Shockwave

	Jovanni Merden
	Salary:	12878 Eu
	Contract:	1 S	Age:	26 y.
	RT:	283	Height:	198 cm.
	Potential:	10
	Virgil Haungs
	Salary:	18513 Eu
	Contract:	5 S	Age:	25 y.
	RT:	262	Height:	208 cm.
	Potential:	9
	Edward Blacknall
	Salary:	-
	Contract:	School talent	Age:	17 y.
	RT:	82	Height:	202 cm.
	Potential:	8

Kamer Pirates

	Arimantas Balanda
	Salary:	18284 Eu
	Contract:	2 S	Age:	30 y.
	RT:	289	Height:	189 cm.
	Potential:	3
	John Wick
	Salary:	-
	Contract:	School talent	Age:	16 y.
	RT:	74	Height:	200 cm.
	Potential:	10
	Russell Jarman
	Salary:	-
	Contract:	School talent	Age:	16 y.
	RT:	73	Height:	176 cm.
	Potential:	9

Trade/Lending players: Shockwave & KR Pirates

-- 71 S 11 d.

Team made a trade offer

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Player:

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 71 S 11 d.

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Player: Virgil Haungs

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 71 S 11 d.

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Player:

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 71 S 11 d.

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Player:

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 71 S 11 d.

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Player: John Wick

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 71 S 11 d.

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Player:

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 71 S 11 d.

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Trade offer accepted -- 71 S 11 d.

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2.2 4.4 Frankebasta

Once again, TheCoach is using his clout over the USA community to circumvent the rules about Trades.

I didn't report the trade involving this Balanda guy because, on its face value it was borderline acceptable.

But after one week, as soon as the "grace period" ended, theCoach unveils its plan: Balanda is not of any use. Fired.
(same happens for the other team: Haungs is up for trade, see Press Conference)

all of the above constitutes a VIOLATION of the following rule: Veterans should not be traded for prospects ONLY.
By the act of releasing Balanda, theCoach effectively traded 2 veterans for 2 prospects!

Excerpt from the Official Rules of the Game:

Trades' rules that must be followed and respected by all users:

2) Players' trade somehow has to benefit both teams (financially, in respect of team composition, etc).
You can trade a good but expensive player to a bit worse but cheaper player. You should not overuse this type of trade. -- 71 S 18 d.

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1.1 1.1 HeyHoudini

I see word "lending" not word "trade"

https://prnt.sc/oq5sr8 -- 71 S 18 d.

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:D. Looks like someone didn’t take their meds again...... -- 71 S 18 d.

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2.2 4.4 Frankebasta

Whatever
My complaint is about TheCoach action to fire a player.
That's a fact -- 71 S 19 d.

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Fair play committee

This trade was reported as unfair. However, the Fair play committee decided that this trade is fair. -- 71 S 19 d.

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2.2 4.4 Frankebasta

Pirates gave up a pot9 and one pot10 prospects and their best rated player in exchange for a pot8 prospect and two lesser players. One of which the Pirates is trying to unload (either because they cannot afford the salary or whatever reason).
Which means that the Pirates traded two prospects in exchange of one, only to gain 9cm difference between Balanda and Merden!
And you mean to tell me this is a Fair trade?
Just look at the numbers!
Just look at the rule!
As I copy/pasted above, a trade as such is against the rules! -- 71 S 19 d.

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I think you are not looking at the rules correctly. The trade as such is not against the rules. That being said I think the Pirates made a bad deal for their team here, giving up two own-scouted players that have Wl1 potential for two players that are rather expensive for a WL4 team. But it's nowhere against the rules to trade useful Veterans for young high pots. -- 71 S 19 d.

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想要给一个人脱罪，那么你有1000条理由，这个游戏没有规则，交易合不合理，只不过少数人说了算而已， -- 71 S 19 d.

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If I was in FTC I would have voted down the trade....but I am not and so I trust their judgement. Simply put, if you have a problem with the way FTC is being run then become a member yourself and change it.....all of this complaining in the press conferences is just nonsense -- 71 S 19 d.

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FTC sees more of the trade than us, as a 3rd party do....so either trust them or become a member yourself and decide how a trade should go. -- 71 S 19 d.

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